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		<title>By: Stephen Speirs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Speirs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 08:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Robert

Thanks for your question, indeed a very pertinent question.  First, my &quot;research&quot; here was a quiz about a previous blog.  This quiz was really targeted at those who had read this article (http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/the-rise-of-cisco-ucs-and-the-cisco-services-data-center-transformation-experience/), so it wasn&#039;t what I would class as formal research.  

I have to say, I personally view Facebook polls as being generally unscientific. They don&#039;t (usually) follow a rigorous market research methodology. However, they are probably more insightful than say me obtaining a few opinions about the office.  On the latter, how many business decisions are taken by soliciting a few opinions about the office - and personal opinions at that - rather than sampling a group of customers - more that most will admit I bet.

For my quiz on my previous blog, Facebook polls are useful - since they are targeted at the exact audience my blog was.  They are terrific for engaging more directly with our blog readers - we really do value your opinions and insights.

If you look at another of my previous blogs, I did use a Facebook poll for a more formal question.  See http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/the-winchester-house-architectural-led-it-strategy-and-your-challenges-what-you-told-us/ .  I received 70+ answers to this question.  Way better than a few informal views if I polled a few of my colleagues.  But not as good as say a 500+ customer survey where you also examine the response demographics so that you get an idea if your have valid responses (I ran one of these surveys 2 or 3 years back, see http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/dealing_with_the_hype_around_and_transition_to_cloud/)

So in summary, Facebook polls IMHO are a use addition to soliciting feedback from your readers or customers.  I would never claim they are scientific, however they are a quick way of testing the temperature on an issue, and could indeed help you decide if a question or issue is worth investigating more formally.  And in any case, as I&#039;ve found via my blogs, the answers do give you insights that can make you question your own views and biases, so this can only be a good thing!

Thanks again Robert for the question, good question without doubt!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Robert</p>
<p>Thanks for your question, indeed a very pertinent question.  First, my &#8220;research&#8221; here was a quiz about a previous blog.  This quiz was really targeted at those who had read this article (<a href="http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/the-rise-of-cisco-ucs-and-the-cisco-services-data-center-transformation-experience/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/the-rise-of-cisco-ucs-and-the-cisco-services-data-center-transformation-experience/</a>), so it wasn&#8217;t what I would class as formal research.  </p>
<p>I have to say, I personally view Facebook polls as being generally unscientific. They don&#8217;t (usually) follow a rigorous market research methodology. However, they are probably more insightful than say me obtaining a few opinions about the office.  On the latter, how many business decisions are taken by soliciting a few opinions about the office &#8211; and personal opinions at that &#8211; rather than sampling a group of customers &#8211; more that most will admit I bet.</p>
<p>For my quiz on my previous blog, Facebook polls are useful &#8211; since they are targeted at the exact audience my blog was.  They are terrific for engaging more directly with our blog readers &#8211; we really do value your opinions and insights.</p>
<p>If you look at another of my previous blogs, I did use a Facebook poll for a more formal question.  See <a href="http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/the-winchester-house-architectural-led-it-strategy-and-your-challenges-what-you-told-us/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/the-winchester-house-architectural-led-it-strategy-and-your-challenges-what-you-told-us/</a> .  I received 70+ answers to this question.  Way better than a few informal views if I polled a few of my colleagues.  But not as good as say a 500+ customer survey where you also examine the response demographics so that you get an idea if your have valid responses (I ran one of these surveys 2 or 3 years back, see <a href="http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/dealing_with_the_hype_around_and_transition_to_cloud/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/dealing_with_the_hype_around_and_transition_to_cloud/</a>)</p>
<p>So in summary, Facebook polls IMHO are a use addition to soliciting feedback from your readers or customers.  I would never claim they are scientific, however they are a quick way of testing the temperature on an issue, and could indeed help you decide if a question or issue is worth investigating more formally.  And in any case, as I&#8217;ve found via my blogs, the answers do give you insights that can make you question your own views and biases, so this can only be a good thing!</p>
<p>Thanks again Robert for the question, good question without doubt!
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/so-what-do-we-not-do-in-cisco-data-center-services/#comment-588124</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing the process you followed to get your research and opinion.  Very interesting to see how you used Facebook.  It would be interesting to know how the views captured from people using Facebook differ to results captured using other mediums?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing the process you followed to get your research and opinion.  Very interesting to see how you used Facebook.  It would be interesting to know how the views captured from people using Facebook differ to results captured using other mediums?
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		<title>By: Stephen Speirs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/so-what-do-we-not-do-in-cisco-data-center-services/#comment-587990</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Speirs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 09:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Eric.  Indeed we do invest in helping our customers increase both their number of end customers, and also help increase their customer satisfaction for them.  If we understand the needs of our customers&#039; customers, we will be able to help our customers all the more - that is indeed our philosophy.  Great observation, Eric, thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Eric.  Indeed we do invest in helping our customers increase both their number of end customers, and also help increase their customer satisfaction for them.  If we understand the needs of our customers&#8217; customers, we will be able to help our customers all the more &#8211; that is indeed our philosophy.  Great observation, Eric, thanks.
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		<title>By: Eric Eynon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/so-what-do-we-not-do-in-cisco-data-center-services/#comment-587815</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Eynon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 20:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats one of the best parts about Cisco is how respectful they&#039;re to their customers by not competing with them, and from the sounds of this blog post it looks like they&#039;re even helping them get more customers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats one of the best parts about Cisco is how respectful they&#8217;re to their customers by not competing with them, and from the sounds of this blog post it looks like they&#8217;re even helping them get more customers.
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		<title>By: Stephen Speirs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/so-what-do-we-not-do-in-cisco-data-center-services/#comment-586969</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Speirs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always have patience for any questions, and yours were good Qs into the bargain!  Thanks again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always have patience for any questions, and yours were good Qs into the bargain!  Thanks again.
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		<title>By: Santanu Ganguly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/so-what-do-we-not-do-in-cisco-data-center-services/#comment-586941</link>
		<dc:creator>Santanu Ganguly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Stephen for your patience with my comments. I have had regular interactions with Cisco&#039;s support, HTTS and NOS etc in my previous role hacking MPLS based services in Switzerland since 2000. I am a grateful beneficiary of their wide range of expertise.

Currently, we are also backed up by a very able group of award winning support colleagues. However, as you have pointed out, the &quot;scaling&quot; factor has not really been challenged...yet :-)

Great stuff! Thanks a lot!

santanu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Stephen for your patience with my comments. I have had regular interactions with Cisco&#8217;s support, HTTS and NOS etc in my previous role hacking MPLS based services in Switzerland since 2000. I am a grateful beneficiary of their wide range of expertise.</p>
<p>Currently, we are also backed up by a very able group of award winning support colleagues. However, as you have pointed out, the &#8220;scaling&#8221; factor has not really been challenged&#8230;yet <img src='http://blogs.cisco.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Great stuff! Thanks a lot!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Speirs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/so-what-do-we-not-do-in-cisco-data-center-services/#comment-586939</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Speirs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, know what you mean (by being stretched).  Back in the 90s, I joined a startup as employee number 4 ... I was called on to do everything from coffee maker to sales to technical support .... with my day job being software development.

One thing I have learned about Cisco since I was acquired into Cisco in 2000, Cisco are masters of scaling the organization, products and processes.  And Cisco Services, and our Technical Services organization in particular, are the real gurus in scaling, to ensure Cisco&#039;s customers get the best possible support  - as witnessed by the many awards our services organization wins (e.g. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/svcs/service_awards_and_recognitions_list.html)

Thanks again for your questions, Santanu, good questions that have helped me tell more of the story!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, know what you mean (by being stretched).  Back in the 90s, I joined a startup as employee number 4 &#8230; I was called on to do everything from coffee maker to sales to technical support &#8230;. with my day job being software development.</p>
<p>One thing I have learned about Cisco since I was acquired into Cisco in 2000, Cisco are masters of scaling the organization, products and processes.  And Cisco Services, and our Technical Services organization in particular, are the real gurus in scaling, to ensure Cisco&#8217;s customers get the best possible support  &#8211; as witnessed by the many awards our services organization wins (e.g. <a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/svcs/service_awards_and_recognitions_list.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/svcs/service_awards_and_recognitions_list.html</a>)</p>
<p>Thanks again for your questions, Santanu, good questions that have helped me tell more of the story!
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		<title>By: Santanu Ganguly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/so-what-do-we-not-do-in-cisco-data-center-services/#comment-586935</link>
		<dc:creator>Santanu Ganguly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks a lot Stephen! I work for Riverbed Professional Services. And our PS process works very similarly...except our roles are perhaps more stretched (POC to post-sales)...but then again we are not nearly the size of Cisco ;-)

santanu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Stephen! I work for Riverbed Professional Services. And our PS process works very similarly&#8230;except our roles are perhaps more stretched (POC to post-sales)&#8230;but then again we are not nearly the size of Cisco <img src='http://blogs.cisco.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Speirs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Speirs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another good question, Santanu.  There are a number of avenues, and yes, there is a role.  

In the case of issues TAC cannot resolve (initially! - issues get solved one way or another, in true One Cisco approach), typically they will escalate to the respective R&amp;D organization for support.  All teams in the development organization support TAC in these cases, and usually have specific escalation teams dedicated to solving escalated customer issues when they come up.  Just normal business here really.

For customers who need a &quot;mission critical support approach, we offer &quot;Focused Technical Support&quot; [http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/svcs/ps11/ps2566/ps2567/serv_group_home.html]  (and HTTS, High Touch Technical Support for service provider) services.

For a design issue as you mention, as developed say by our professional services teams for a customer, many of our customers take our Network Optimization Services (NOS) or, for Data Center customers, our Data Center Optimization Services (see http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/transforming-to-the-world-of-many-clouds-just-add-to-your-cisco-optimization-services-contract-its-that-easy/ for example, and http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10365/serv_home.html) - and these services have options for customers to receive specialist, customer specific design and troubleshooting support on-site with our design consultants.

So all in all, the customer issues always get solved, one way or another!

Who do you work for, out of interest? (if you can tell me of course!)

thanks
Stephen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good question, Santanu.  There are a number of avenues, and yes, there is a role.  </p>
<p>In the case of issues TAC cannot resolve (initially! &#8211; issues get solved one way or another, in true One Cisco approach), typically they will escalate to the respective R&amp;D organization for support.  All teams in the development organization support TAC in these cases, and usually have specific escalation teams dedicated to solving escalated customer issues when they come up.  Just normal business here really.</p>
<p>For customers who need a &#8220;mission critical support approach, we offer &#8220;Focused Technical Support&#8221; [http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/svcs/ps11/ps2566/ps2567/serv_group_home.html]  (and HTTS, High Touch Technical Support for service provider) services.</p>
<p>For a design issue as you mention, as developed say by our professional services teams for a customer, many of our customers take our Network Optimization Services (NOS) or, for Data Center customers, our Data Center Optimization Services (see <a href="http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/transforming-to-the-world-of-many-clouds-just-add-to-your-cisco-optimization-services-contract-its-that-easy/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/transforming-to-the-world-of-many-clouds-just-add-to-your-cisco-optimization-services-contract-its-that-easy/</a> for example, and <a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10365/serv_home.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps10365/serv_home.html</a>) &#8211; and these services have options for customers to receive specialist, customer specific design and troubleshooting support on-site with our design consultants.</p>
<p>So all in all, the customer issues always get solved, one way or another!</p>
<p>Who do you work for, out of interest? (if you can tell me of course!)</p>
<p>thanks<br />
Stephen
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		<title>By: Santanu Ganguly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/so-what-do-we-not-do-in-cisco-data-center-services/#comment-586108</link>
		<dc:creator>Santanu Ganguly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks for the clarity Stephen! Yes, I am well aware of the role of Cisco&#039;s TAC servicse (worked for a almost a decade with close Cisco partners..). Was just wondering about issues which essentially the TAC cannot resolve or certify (design specific, for example). The overall role of Professional Services does seem to be similar to the one that I am involved in. 

Thanks a lot for that!

santanu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for the clarity Stephen! Yes, I am well aware of the role of Cisco&#8217;s TAC servicse (worked for a almost a decade with close Cisco partners..). Was just wondering about issues which essentially the TAC cannot resolve or certify (design specific, for example). The overall role of Professional Services does seem to be similar to the one that I am involved in. </p>
<p>Thanks a lot for that!</p>
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